27/6/73 NAVADVÉPA – CONVERSATION with HIS HOLINESS B.R. SRÉDHARA MAHÄRÄJA Yadubara : Yes, I think so.
Prabhupäda : (Bengali) Goloka-nämni nija-dhämni tale ca tasya devémaheça- hari-dhäma.. . [Bs. 5.43]. About our temple contemplation, it will be almost a
skyscraper building. Bhavänanda : Will be. Çrédhara Mahäräja : Eh?
Prabhupäda : Skyscraper building in temple shape, with four divisions. Goloka- nämni nija-dhämni tale ca tasya devé-maheça ... [Bs. 5.43]. So Maheçadhäma, how it will be depicted? Pärvaté-wise. (?) Çrédhara Mahäräja : It has been already described by Sanätana Gosvämé in Båhad-Bhägavatämåtam. After crossing Brahmaloka, Prabhupäda : There is Maheça-dhäma, in between. Çrédhara Mahäräja : Maheça-dhäma. And the devotee, Çiva is devotee. Prabhupäda : Yes, everyone is... Çiva’s devotional prayer is there in Fourth Can- to, about the four sons. What are those? Çrédhara Mahäräja: Devé-dhäma. Virajä to virajä, nirviçeña . The last conception or the highest conception of Devé-dhäma is what are the conception of virajä; prakåti ends there... Then begins... Prabhupäda : Käraëa, käraëärëava. Çrédhara Mahäräja : Käraëa, käraëärëava. Then it begins Brahmaloka, the halo of the spiritual world. Prabhupäda : Effulgence. Yes. Çrédhara Mahäräja : Spiritual world. And that is also some, some, somewhat nirviçeña. And then, after crossing that, the Çiva is on the other, higher side or he is in lower side. That is differentiation... Prabhupäda : Çiva is... Çrédhara Mahäräja : Differentiation on two sides is Çiva. This side also, Master of Devé, and this side also. He is searching after something and when the differ- entiated world ends in Brahmaloka, there also Çiva is devotee. This side, Çiva is a yogé. He’s searching after. And then, there, he’s going to meet Näräyaëa, to face (indistinct). Prabhupäda : Both sides, he’s a devotee.
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