0:44:59 - (Reg Prentice): And in one way that's, in quotes, a waste of paper, but in another way, it allows people to just walk up and interact with something in a serendipitous way. 0:45:10 - (Randy Wilburn): Yeah, well, I mean, I still think the human brain processes information that way in a more efficient manner. To me, it's not an or, it's an and. It's like, how do we do this and keep things in the real world in front of us because we need that? It's the same argument we make for FaceTime versus a Zoom call. There is a real tangible benefit to being face to face, kneecap to kneecap with somebody because a lot of stuff gets lost in translation online. 0:45:45 - (Randy Wilburn): And I think the same would apply to digital data and information that we are consuming on our computer screens. 0:45:53 - (Reg Prentice): And certainly the rise of AI and digital communications, I think, makes physical meetings even more valuable. And so I'm looking forward to meeting Randy in person at a conference later in the year. But it's like that meeting will just be materially different than what we're doing now. I think AI makes that even more valuable because there's so much opportunity for manipulation and intermediation with AI that just meeting someone and knowing that they're a real person is going to become increasingly important. 0:46:30 - (Randy Wilburn): Oh, yeah. Relationships, it’s the ‘r’ word, as I like to say, and it's extremely valuable. There is no replacement for real relationships being developed in skin and flesh. And, of course, I know that virtuality will be a thing at some point in time we'll be able to have a hologram of each other and sit down on my couch behind me and have a conversation, but we're not quite there yet. 0:46:56 - (Randy Wilburn): And then at some point in time, the Trekkie in me is loving the idea of just being able to transport myself somewhere. Don't know if I'll see that in my lifetime, but I'm sure we'll be able to assemble and disassemble atoms, disassemble people at an atomic level to be able to do that but we're not there yet. 0:47:14 - (Reg Prentice): I'm not going to be the one who's going to offer to go first, put it that way. 0:47:18 - (Randy Wilburn): No, I will not be signing up for that one, that's for sure. Well, Reg, if people listening to this want to get in contact with you, what's the best way for them to do that with the understanding that everything that Reg is referenced here on this call, we're going to certainly put in the Show Notes. You'll have access to all that, but an output Reg is his LinkedIn profile in the Show Notes. But certainly, our Zweig Letter podcast audience is very loyal. If people want to get in contact with you to find out more about TonicDM, what do they need to do? 0:47:48 - (Reg Prentice): I think LinkedIn is probably the best. I don't usually accept people from outside the industry but I will connect with anyone who's AEC-related, so just reach out that way. I think it's probably the easiest.
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