205 - TZL - David Shove-Brown

Randy Wilburn [38:31] Yeah, it has. It's monumental that we've all survived through this. And actually, like I said, and I've said it over and over again, and I'll continue to say it, we're resilient and we're stronger because of everything that we've been able to endure over the past few years.

David Shove-Brown [38:46] I gave a presentation down in Florida a couple of weeks ago and we talked about office culture. And one of my slides that I presented just simply said, compassion without humility is just sympathy. And for me, having this compassion and understanding of what is compassion from the last couple of years and not just going alright, yeah, I'm really sorry, Randy, you can't leave your house, that's too bad. You’re just placating. And so for us, it's being able to be humble and look at ourselves and go, okay, not only can Randy not leave his house, but what can I do to help that? What can we do to make that better? And then all of a sudden, that's compassion. And you find that even though you're sort of at your lowest energy level, or you're taxed emotionally, that little bit of giving somebody that little bit extra that comes back and that for us is what's really happened over the last couple of years. You've found those people that not only said they were compassionate but acted it and that's really what's been amazing for me to see.

Randy Wilburn [39:55] I love that and that's kind of like hearing one of my favorite catchphrases, how can I help? How can I help in this situation? We never know what other people are going through until we know.

David Shove-Brown [40:09] The whole duck theory, right? You look at somebody and they may look calm and cool, but their feet are going a million miles an hour under the water. You don’t know.

Randy Wilburn [40:17] You’re so true. Well, David, this has been great. I appreciate you sharing your wisdom and just a little bit about your background and experience and what you guys have been doing at //3877. It certainly is a testimony to you taking your company from your kitchen table on Capitol Hill to the heights that you guys are at today. Who knows what the future holds but I certainly will be rooting for you guys on the sidelines as I continue to keep tabs on how things are going there. If people want to reach out and connect with you after listening to this podcast, what's the best way for them to do that?

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