Randy Wilburn [7:14] Yeah, that's something that I'm really excited about. I do think that more and more organizations, more and more companies need to be intentional about getting out there and giving back even at a young age where you can't recruit any of these kids to come work for you tomorrow but you can go to the high schools and junior high schools and encourage them to look at STEAM and STEM and all these different opportunities that are available to young kids that these kids are not traditionally considering. David Shove-Brown [7:44] Well, yeah, I love doing little high school fairs. And quite frankly, I've taught in elementary school, one for the school my kid used to go to. And it's so awesome to go and show and talk about what you do, and talk about what effect it has on people and not just drawing and designing a space but understanding the business of restaurants and how people live in their homes. Like, the whole sociological side of it is so much fun to talk about. Randy Wilburn [8:13] Yeah, it really is. And so, as I was kind of doing a little bit of research on you, it sounds like you not only have a love for architecture, but you also have a love for landscape architecture for the whole environment. So it's not just the building, but it's also the land that that building sits on. How did you decide to ultimately pick one versus the other, even though technically they're both merged together and the way that you look at things? David Shove-Brown [8:43] Well, it’s exactly that. I went into the architecture side because I loved that game of art and math and sort of tying them together. You know, designing something and then going how do you build it, or how do you get it to stand up, or how do you even create this physical form. And so, it wasn't really until I got into architecture that I really started to understand landscape architecture and interior design, and how all these things marry together and create such amazing experiences. So, for me, it's so much fun to work with people in the landscape space and in the interior design space. All these things come together to create really fantastic designs.
Randy Wilburn [9:20] And it's funny that you mentioned that because I'm a huge Frank Lloyd Wright fan, and you probably know this, but Frank Lloyd Wright designed a lot of his buildings around nature, and my cousin still owns a house one block over from one of a couple of homes that I think he designed and built in Oak Park, Illinois. And this
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