Transcript — BBC Radio Surrey, Interview with Ben Newman, 2 June 2023 Transcript – BBC Radio Surrey, Interview with Ben Newman, 2 June 2023
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Thanks to Ben Newman from the Animal Rising group. First of all, Ben, good morning. Thank you for joining us.
Ben Newman
Good morning. Thanks for having me.
Erm, there's an injunction to prevent a repeat of what happened at the Grand National, so um are your plans still gonna go ahead? Yes. So after the Gr- yes so after the Grand National um people left crying er and the whole country was shocked. And really, they lost the argument, and now they have brought out er some private laws, which are quite concerning, the use of injunctions. Erm but yes, the protest will still be going ahead, yes. Emiyoumentionedyouyou'replanningdisruptionbetweenraces. So tellus about that? Erm you mentioned you y ou’re planning disruption between races. So tellus about that? Erm so I mean it’s much the sum… there is two things going on there, there's one there down to, and also some people will be er putting their bodies … get - getting on the tracks er and er disrupting the race, and you know maybe delaying it for a bit, but I do n’t think it is the erm … yep Erm so I mean it's much the sum... there is two things going on there, there's one there protest erm family fun family friendly protest out the front, er which invites anyone to go down to, and also some people will be er putting their bodies ... get-getting on the tracks er and er disrupting the race, and you know maybe delaying it for a bit, but I don't think it is the erm... yep So sorry, can I just clarify the the second part you talked about, is that going to happen between races or during races? Erm, there ’ s an injunction to prevent a repeat of what happened at the Grand National,
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Ben Newman
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Ben Newman
Oh, no one is going to be running in front of horses for the running, no
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You said it would be up to the race organisers to decide whether a race is actually safe to run, er however. So, so what does that mean? Emi so if the if the h-... if the w- the, the... Epsom Derby decide when to run the race ... and erm sorry, I didn't say that, but I mean they they can decide to run the race. If the race seems unsafe, emi... they certainly shouldn't run the race, no. Erm so if the if the h- … if the w- the, the… Epsom Derby decide when to run the race … and erm sorry, I did n’t say that, but I mean they they can decide to run the race. If the race seems unsafe, erm… they certainly should n’t run the race, no. Erm so.. so fr- from your point of view, what what actually declares as a race safe to run Emi so.. so fr- from your point of view, what what actually declares as a race safe to run then, if if you are going to be protesting at the same time? Where we have the the ... after the ... if the horses are, if the horses are skittish or anything like that, but I mean, I, I do not actually host. I do not actually host horse races, but I would say all horse races all horse races are not safe for horses, and that is the whole point of this of this protest, it or at least part of the point is is that a- you may have seen at the Grand National, a horse went over the first jump, died and broke their neck on the spot. So horse racing is not safe to horses at all, and and that is the point, that we aretreating them like propertyand andmakingthemrun. SoIwould...soou-position is that it is not safe for horses to run the race at all, hence why we are trying to stop it. Where we have the the … after the … if the horses are , if the horses are skittish or we are treating them like property and and making them run. So Iwould… so our position
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Ben Newman
Erm how er confident are you that your actions won't put the horses in danger as well? Erm how er confident are you that your actions won’t put the horses in danger as well?
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Ben Newman
Well, we are doing it for two reasons, and one is to to stop the horses running. So in the case of the Grand National, for example, that that is the most recent example. Three horses died that that erm that weekend and the first horse went over and died as soon as as soon as the race started, a horse died. It is shocking, erm but we are also doing it to create erm a massive erm conversation and and we did create that. So forexanple, 183 it to create erm a massive erm conversation and and we did create that. So for example,
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