patient care and that the history is very critical. Dr. Shoshany talked about making sure that the chiropractor understands if there's any history of stroke or dissection or aneurysm in the individual's circumstances or in their family's circumstances, went on to reference the presence of collagen disorders as ones that have a tendency to precipitate fragility in arteries that would lead to dissection. I think he cited in particular Marfan's disease and went on to talk about the overall importance of the history and the examination. At that point I believe Dr. Oz read a statement from the American Chiropractic Association that made reference to the training that doctors of chiropractic receive and the responsibility for diagnosis and referral when necessary, very routine things, nothing unusual and nothing out of the ordinary, and nothing specifically directed to this problem but a generic statement about our responsibilities clinically. Again, it was well-received and cited by Dr. Oz. They then went on to a discussion about what the profession is doing about this. Dr. Shoshany was able to advise Dr. Oz and the audience that the profession has been attending to this for decades. Then he went on to talk about the fact that he has practiced in Manhattan for over 20 years. He's delivered personally over 200,000 adjustments. He's never seen a situation or an incident of this nature. Then he made reference to the clinics at Life University, perhaps the largest clinics in the world, having seen over the last 25 years in excess of four and a half million ... or delivered four and a half million cervical adjustments, never an incident of this kind, and then went on to extrapolate that to all of chiropractic education over the last 20 years, that no one has had a report of a dissection or a stroke associated with care in the student clinics at any of the 17 chiropractic colleges across the country, with the implication being that if you take persons at the beginning level of their skill development, they're, in theory, the least prepared to deliver a highly competent adjustment. It's the learning process, and for these things to not have occurred in that environment is even more striking. I just want to mention two things based on what you're referring to. Number one, I want to make sure that everyone understands that Dr. Shoshany is a chiropractor that was asked to be on the show, but he is not the chiropractor that treated Katie May. Also, I just want to make sure that we highlight the fact that we said in the last update that we did, that the coroner even mentioned that he had never seen a situation exactly like this. That corresponds with what was relayed on that show. Those points are all true and absolutely accurate, and I thank you for that clarification, because it's important that Dr. Shoshany has no firsthand knowledge of the exam or the physical or the care that was provided to Ms. May. Neither does Dr. Oz, for that matter. As you said, the coroner did comment and was quoted in the press as saying that he had never seen a case of this type in his career. Gerry? Yes, sir.
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