Putting The Stroke Issue to Bed

him 8 months or so to come up with this conclusion, where do you think it could come from? Well, clearly the idea of whether or not she had an injury before she presented to the emergency room or sometime earlier before she sought care from the chiropractor, that all came from history, whether that came from the family, whether that came from the physicians that were involved in the emergency room, the coroner had not direct access to those people. The references in his report suggest that he acquired that information on an indirect basis rather than dealing directly with people. Right, but there were reports that were sent over to him, I believe, and the other thing is that he, I think he did have presented him the fact that she did have a traumatic injury at the photo shoot, although I'm not sure. He just talked about blunt force injury. You already mentioned, how does this really jive with the fact that after the neck injury, she winds up at the chiropractor and winds up with more or increased symptoms leader her to the emergency room. Correct, and again, that's the whole dissection and progress scenario that we have been talking about along the way and that Cassidy has talked about and that Kosloff talked about and to a degree that the church talked about in their literature from 2008, 2015, and 2016 respectively. We're still in that quandary about that entire process. I would say, now with the autopsy report, it looks to me far more likely that she in fact did dissect on January 27th that created the first neck pain that she had, whether that was a result of a photo shoot or that was a result of a fall, let's assume it's one of the other or both and move beyond that point, so if she was a dissection in progress, that's a totally different picture that we have to be concerned about, and she may have been the only she may have demonstrated. We don't know this from the chiropractor's records or from the autopsy report for that matter. We don't know what symptoms she presented with on the 27th, whether there was any neurological signs, whether there was anything to suggest that this is anything more than mechanical neck pain, we're in the dark in that regard. We have still much to learn in relationship to this, but I'd come back to the point that the coroner's report where it provides a great deal of information about the findings in general, the size of her kidneys, the size of her heart, et cetera, all of that kind of detail, it really doesn't get to helping us understand this sequence of events and helping us appreciate really where the point of origin of this problem was. As a result, as I say, I come back to the point that I think it muddies the water rather than clarifies anything at this point. Yeah, so do you think that if the coroner was presented with information showing that she did have this specific fall, do you think he would have or could have drawn a different conclusion? Well, I think the coroner was honest in saying he has never seen a case of this type in his career. This is the first time he has come across this type of problem, which very clearly speaks to how rare it is, number 1. Number 2, being straightforward

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