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chiropractic exercise, good nutrition, positive attitudes. Do these regular low cost, low risk interventions applied consistently throughout life, allow us to avoid high risk interventions, drugs, radiation surgery, except in emergencies? If these are the 5 conversations going on according to Coulter at the Rand Corporation, all of a sudden, vaccination has an input in this. For example, if I were to ask chiropractors of principle, where do you stand? If I were to say things, I would say vitalism versus mechanism, you’d hear the audience respond vitalism. If I said naturalism versus artificialism, the audience would respond naturalism. Holism versus reductionism, we’d hear holism. Humanism versus authoritarianism and conservative therapeutics, we’d hear those rather than authoritarianism and high risk interventions. If you’re looking at vitalism, naturalism, holism, humanism, and conservative therapeutics, then all of a sudden, vaccination becomes, from our perspective in chiropractic, a lifestyle decision that people have to make, especially in the areas of naturalism and humanism, as you mentioned, one of our rights as patients, as people in this society. Secondly, does the body really have the ability to be as fully self-developing, self-maintaining, self-healing mechanism? While it’s not a chiropractic issue, our philosophy gives us an opinion about this particular issue. To Tedd’s comments, it’s gets very personal. In our family, we’re third generation non-vaccinated. My father was a chiropractor. He didn’t vaccinate us. My children were not vaccinated, and my grandchildren have not been vaccinated. They’re now in California, and they’re facing this issue that’s coming up. Tedd talked about this as an emotional issue. I actually look at it as the new religion, and like in any religion, you’re not allowed to question the faith. It’s so much so. I have a staff member that works for me, and her brother and his wife just had a child. They will not allow her and her children to come over and visit them and see the new baby because they haven’t been vaccinated. This is the religion that’s going on in our society today. We, as chiropractors, I think not only have a philosophical responsibility to it and a patient responsibility, but collectively, we have the resources to be part of a mounting effort to stand up against this and to make change in the direction that we’re going. That’s exactly why I am so thankful to have you as a friend, a mentor, and to have you on this show. The clarity of which you just put that is perfect from my point of view. Some people have asked me, “Hey, you run a malpractice insurance company. What does that have to do with this vaccination issue?” Well, you hit one of the points, Guy, when you talked about when a patient goes to a doctor of any type in this day and age, they have certain rights. It’s the right of privacy, but also the informed consent issue. There is no informed consent when it comes to vaccination, and it’s something that I teach around the country, the chiropractors, in dealing with informed consent, but that’s something that’s missing in this whole argument versus whether or not patients have a right to be educated as to the outcomes of vaccination. I really appreciate your point of it, and I know you’re also coming, representing one

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