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supports what we do and what we believe, and what our founding principles have guided us to, so I appreciate that. How did that go? What was the response that you received from being on that program? Well, there were a lot of people that were against that message. They sent me death threats. They sent in complaints to the Arizona Medical Board against me. I had 38 board complaints. I had to hire a very high priced first amendment attorney to defend my rights for freedom of speech, and I prevailed very easily on that case because it was very clearly a freedom of speech issue. I have lost a lot of friends because of my cardiology views, my medical views, and certainly my views on vaccination and natural immunity. I’ve lost a lot of friends, but you know what, Stu? I’ve gained so many friends like you and Allan and so many other people in the chiropractic community that are real friends, that are true friends, that get it. I am a big promoter of chiropractic, because I believe it, not just because I’m married to one and to, but I believe that the chiropractors of the world need to be the gatekeepers. They, in my mind, need to be the primary care doctors, and if they can’t figure it out, send them to a cardiologist. Send them to somebody else, but let the chiropractors be the first line, because they are in the wellness system, not the sickness model. I think that’s why you’ve become such a popular attraction at some of the chiropractic events around the country. I know that you always have a full house when I get to see you, and I can appreciate why. Let me ask you this, when chiropractors are talking about vaccinations … and this program is really about freedom of choice just like you were talking about, your freedom to speak on behalf of what you believe, but it’s really the freedom of choice and a parent’s ability to become educated, and make informed choices for themselves and their families, rather than having a forced drugging of their children. Then maybe next step is forced drugging of adults as well. How do you think that a chiropractor should be conversing with their patients on this topic? I think that obviously a lot of people seek out chiropractors and they become their primary care doctors. This isn’t 100 years ago when BJ Palmer was in practice, where every chiropractor just saw 100 patients a day. There’s a lot of chiropractors now that are functioning in the wellness space, the functional medicine place, and they’re trying to do a lot more with less patients. I think those people are looked upon as the primary care provider to so many of these people. I think that chiropractors, when they’re educated on the topic of natural immunity and natural health, and the dangers of vaccination, I think that they’re perfect people to speak on that issue. I think that anybody needs to get informed. The pediatricians, they don’t really get informed about the dangers of vaccines. They’re just told, “Hey listen, this is what we do,” and go ahead and do it. So many family practitioners and the people in the medical space and the ER docs, it’s just what they do. As far as formal training when it comes to vaccines, I don’t think anybody is getting formal training when it

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