if we can help people help people preserve that function even if they're subluxated by giving them a referral, I think we probably have a humanistic responsibility to do so. That would be my argument, and by the way, that would also be the argument, I'm sure, of a plaintiff attorney that says you screwed up on this one. Protect yourself, protect your patient. I think that to talk about cauda equina is a very simple thing to do, it's extremely rare that we would ever see one, but should it happen, to protect the patient and protect yourself, I think it's just a smart thing to do. I agree. I think rather than looking at it ... Maybe looking at it from a different perspective for the doctors, I think that a lot of the doctors may have the view, "Holy cow, if I tell the patients about stroke, about dic issues, about cauda equina syndrome, they're never going to start care with me," and it becomes a fear factor. How many patients have refused to sign this and start care with you, would you guess? None. I mean this is the current issue. We put it together this way so that it is less fear than some of the ones the lawyers would put together. We've had no patients not sign this. In other words, this doesn't scare them that much. It really doesn't because if they have any issues at all, we talk to them about it and say "Yeah. It's real rare." Again, this is not necessarily chiropractic causing these things, it's these things just occur anyway. We're saying, "Hey, if you're getting under cared for whatever reason and all of the sudden you cannot urinate," we're just telling people to inform themselves if they ever get these things that it has absolutely nothing to do with chiropractic. I think something, Dan, that I would want to add to that, what you sai d a minute ago is really, what I think, is the key. You're actually communicating with the patient. You're not fearful of doing that. You're not coming from a defensive posture. You're an educator naturally, but really, to the patients, you always have to be that educator and communicator. By doing that, I don't think that patients wind up with fear of what you're doing because you're coming from a different perspective. You're not trying to instill fear in them. You're offering up some expertise rather than fear-based information. Well said. Yeah. You're looking like you're there primarily to help them in lots of different directions. Right because the informed consent is actually a process. It's not a form. It's not just a conversation. It is a process and in that process, it's really a conversation that you're having. You're not directing, you're not doing anything else other than really having that conversation based on knowledge and expertise that you, as the doctor, have that the patient wouldn't normally have on their own. Perfect. I'm on the second page of this, there's only a little bit more. Let me just read it for everyone who is listening. I have a section on soft tissue injuries and it says, "Soft tissue injuries primarily reverse the muscles and ligaments. Muscles move bones and ligaments limit joint movement. Rarely, a chiropractic adjustment,
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