shows up and we didn't do anything to recognize that there may be some red flags or whatever, then we have put ourselves at risk. Not the baby so much, because we know how safe what we do can be. But we do jeopardize our own self based on something that is unforeseen and we have no control over. If we don't have any information other than, well the baby I'll just check and adjust the atlas. Stu I agree with you. I mean, the last thing that I ever want to have is the conversation over a malpractice case with you. As you are my malpractice carrying company. Because I know the first thing that you would ask me is where's your documentation. And that's the point that I want to get across today. So let's talk about this a little bit in the pediatric population. Lora, let me just add something, because you brought up a very good point about documentation. And a lot of the doctors don't realize that most of the states have very specific requirements to maintain their license about documentation for a new patients, and for existing patients. And there is usually no identification or differentiation based on age. Either they're a patient or not and you do need documentation. So I'm glad you raised that as well, but go ahead. Documentation is vital, because documentation for us is also going to be the reason that we make our differential diagnosis. Or the decision as to whether or not we're going to care for that child in our practice. So I'm going to go back to the statement you made about maybe cause and effect. A child has said condition, was also seen by a chiropractor around the same time, was this related to a chiropractic incident? As you know, quite a bit of studying in the recent past has been on safety and pediatrics. There was the [inaudible 00:09:59] study and there's other studies through Safety Net and Dr. Katie Pulman that are looking at safety issues. And as of right now, that information shows that chiropractic care is safe for pediatric patients. But it is something that's being studied very vigorously right now in the chiropractic world. But my concern is, is that we always want to stay in that realm of being safe for pediatric care. But we have to do our due diligence to make sure that no adverse event occurs within our practices. And that's going back to history and examination. If we look at, for instance, if we look at a mother who potentially had mediation during her pregnancy. We all know that medications have different classifications and can adversely affect a child in utero. So we would want to know that information, especially if let's say that baby comes into the office presenting with persistent crying since birth. We have to know, is the persistent crying really colic, which we're all quite familiar with and we see frequently in a chiropractic office. Or is this cry at a much higher pitch, or a much higher decibel which could indicate some sort of underlying neurological condition.
Dr. Lora Tanis:
Dr. Stu Hoffman:
Dr. Lora Tanis:
I mean a cry is not always a cry Stu. Just because it's been diagnosed by a pediatrician as colic, I have seen many cases in my practice where what is
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