Marshall Atkinson Okay. That's great. And so Kevin, where do you see print-on-demand in the next 18 to 24 months? Is it going to get bigger, and they're going to have more players involved, or they're just going to be these giant companies that this is all they do... what do you think? Kevin Oakley Yeah, so the statistic keeps moving upwards. So, you know, when we were in July or August, it said that, the COVID pandemic moved eCommerce up five years. The last I checked, they say it moved up closer to like eight years. And what that means is that -- it's now people are adopting eCommerce faster in three months, than they thought it was going to take eight years. So what that means is that people who were first may be apprehensive to sell online, or didn't think that they saw the value are now online selling. So you need to not look any further than Shopify. So Shopify is the biggest eCommerce platform for individual sellers. So what they offer is an online store builder platform. But that's very robust and very powerful, and gigantic companies -- you know, some multi- hundred million dollar companies are running their stores through Shopify. So if you look at their earnings for the last two quarters, they've doubled their business over 2019. So where I think in 18 months is that trend is going to continue, and even ramp up. Where that comes to print-on-demand, I think that it's going to become more popular with even a little bit smaller shops. However, I think big players are just going to get bigger and become more well-known and more of like a household name, especially in our industry. Because as Shane said earlier in this conversation; right now, we're kind of coming from a perspective of printers becoming a technology company. Where historically in the print-on-demand space, it's been almost all technology companies being printing companies. So there's a lot of people now learning names like Printify or Printful and those types of things because they're, they're becoming gigantic. I think at last glance, you know, Printful is going to be doing $200 million and I think they started in 2015. So you could just see the exponential growth, because right now, where we're just doing mostly apparel, but print-on-demand can be, can be scaled to almost any product eventually. So whether you're selling a phone case, a USB, or a custom all-over suitcase... all those things can all be tailored to print-on-demand. It's just going to be a little bit more expensive in the interim. But within 5 to 10 years, you're going to start seeing those costs come down as the technology comes, becomes better. Marshall Atkinson For you guys, who is the ideal customer that you're building all this stuff for? Cause I'm sure they're listening right now with their ears up, right?
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