something. I want somebody to get up, from listening to the podcast, run to their desk, and change something they're doing based on something that you said. So don't be afraid to go into details and explain how you got there. Not just that you got there, but how you got there. And that's pretty much been the podcast ever since. Is. Let's get into the details. And every guest is different, but for me, it's the guests. It's connecting with this new human being and learning a little something about them and having them share their most. Not all my guests are architects. Most of them are, but not all of them. Architects are inherently also very artistic. Like, I quit asking. I was really surprised at the number of architects that did something very creative. Lots of musicians or artists, or I built furniture or just traveled all over the world. And so I try to find out something about them, make them feel comfortable, and then get them to tell me all the good stuff about their project. And I love, for me, the challenge is, what can I make you feel comfortable enough to get you to share with me? I want to take it to the next level. Not just, oh, tell me about the structural framing system. okay, well, there might be another way to talk about that structural framing system that might be a little more entertaining. But I love it. A lot of architects are rather introverted as well, so it takes some work to pull that out. And for me, it's like, my win is that I get you out of your shell to share your passion for what you do for a living and what you create. And so that's where I get my kicks from doing this podcast, seeing how much I can get somebody to just relax and really share what they're doing. Randy Wilburn: Yeah, well, you've certainly done a good job of it and I will encourage our listeners to check out the detailed podcast just as well. First of all, some of our listeners will benefit from listening to your podcast. Most of our, if not all of our listeners should and would benefit from listening to the detailed podcast and listening to some of Cherise's expertise, as well as her ability to maneuver a conversation and have a really good, engaging, and open conversation with the audience and more importantly with the guest of the episode. But so I will certainly we'll put a link in the show notes to the detailed podcast for folks to check out. One of the questions that I have for you is whether you have tried out podcasting before. Did you realize that podcasting has had the long tail effect that it does have in terms of, you know, you create something today and that two years from now, three years from now, people will still be listening to that and listening to your conversations as you go back and forth with somebody? Did you recognize the power of podcasting from that perspective or what was it about podcasting that resonated with you above and beyond the normal? You getting to meet some really cool people, or you getting to just practice and continue to hone that communication muscle that you have. What was it about podcasting that really stuck with you?
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