Randy Wilburn: And you’re doing a great job of it. I will make sure that we put all of that in the show notes so that our listeners can connect with you. We'll put a link to the detailed podcast, which I would encourage anybody who listens and subscribes to the Zweig Letter podcast to also subscribe to the detailed podcast and hear Cherise at work and hear some of the really engaging and interesting conversations that take place on that podcast. So we'll put all of that out there.
Cherise Lakeside: And then, don't forget the YouTube channel.
Randy Wilburn: Oh, the YouTube channel too, yes. We'll put a link for that. We'll make sure that all of that is in the show notes so that those who are listening to this, if you've made it all the way to the end of this episode, which will probably be an hour and 15 hours and 20 minutes long, then you deserve to get everything available for you. And we'll make sure all of that's in the show notes. Cherise Lakeside. Thank you so much for joining us today. We really appreciate you spending, some time with us and sharing your story. And we hope to have you back on another episode of the Zweig Letter podcast. Cherise Lakeside: Thank you for having me and you know where to find me. Happy to come back. And we are kindred spirits. Randy Wilburn: Absolutely. So. Well, folks, there you have it. I hope you enjoyed this episode of the Zweig Letter podcast. I do want to encourage you. One of the reasons why I wanted to bring Cherise on was because Zweig Group and Gable Media have partnered up to offer some amazing opportunities to help design firms develop podcasts. So along the same lines of what was created with the detailed podcast for RC and having somebody, an amazing talent like Cherise, come on board and be the face of that podcast, we can help you actually with that. And so that's one of the new services that Zweig Group is offering partnering up with Gable Media. And, we're offering basically a white glove service, if you will, to help you get your podcast off the ground. Because as Cherise said, a lot of people just don't know where to start. But we definitely do, and we can kind of walk you through that. You can always go to zweiggroup.com and learn a little bit more about the podcasting program. It's right there at the top of the menu. You can click on it and learn more about the program, learn more about our offerings, and yeah, just check it out. Because you never know, the design firm that you represent might be ripe and ready to have your own podcast. And we can certainly help you out with that. So that's all for now. We, appreciate you listening to the Zweig Letter podcast. Remember, if you want to subscribe to the Zweig Letter, you can do so for free. It's one of the longest-running newsletters in the design
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