Randy Wilburn: Yeah, well, no, and you're absolutely right. And I think it's a good reminder, especially for those that are out there recruiting on behalf of their respective firms, that you do have to hold hands a little bit more with this next generation, but then also don't feel like there's a lot that they can teach you too. And so there's. That's why I said what I said about mentoring and mentorship is that it really is a two-way street. And a lot of times, unfortunately, when a lot of people think about mentoring, it's like, oh, I just got to pour into this person and it's just one-sided. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Keep that in mind.
Cherise Lakeside: Absolutely.
Randy Wilburn: So I want to switch gears a little bit and talk about your journey into podcasting because, I mean, would you consider yourself an unlikely podcaster? Cherise Lakeside: That might be a little bit of an understatement. I did a very short stint with a podcast a number of years ago, started an effort online to share knowledge, did a handful of episodes and I was so uncomfortable and it was hard to find a groove or feel like it was for me. I had a needed like an hour pump-you-up session with Cherise before I was even ready to get online. It just wasn't something that I really thought would be my thing and not something that I had seriously considered, doing in any big way. And I mean, I'm a spec writer and I had done a bunch of public speaking by the point this adventure started and that changed it a little bit. But yeah, unlikely podcasters are a really good way to describe it. I still feel like an unlikely podcaster, to be perfectly honest. Randy Wilburn: Yeah, a lot of what you're saying to me makes sense as you continue to peel back the onion and you, you shared 400 speaking engagements. I'm sure at some point you were probably mortified about getting up on stage and talking to a bunch of people. But over time, the more you do it, the better you get at it. I always tell people, especially with public speaking, it's just a muscle that you have to exercise. Like, I never think twice about speaking publicly, but there are a lot of people out there that would, like, just slip my wrist because I don't want to speak in front of two people, much less 500 people. And I couldn't even. I'm, like, on the opposite end of that. I'm happy to talk to a large group at any point in time, and I'll figure something out because it's just something that I really enjoy doing. But you kind of married what you were able to do from a public speaking perspective, and you brought it over into the podcasting world. And it's not so much how you. Well, how did you get chosen or how did they come to you for the detailed podcast? What is that original piece?
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