Cherise Lakeside: I think they were drinking one day. I'm joking, to be perfectly honest. I don't know what made them call me. I had been like I said, connected to Marc LePage and Demetrius online for a number of years, but I didn't know them well. Traded comments back and forth a little bit on Twitter, on Facebook, and with the Entre Architect group. And Mark sent me an email one day and said, would you be interested in doing a podcast? And I am not kidding. I sat here at my desk by myself, looking behind me like, who's he talking to? This is an email I'm reading. Like, who's he talking to? And I said, well, I'm always happy to talk about new opportunities. And I don't remember what I said, but, I know I was thinking, you probably don't have the right person, but I'll chat with you about it. I believe in not talking about an opportunity, even if it's not going to be for you. You should at least hear it out first. Yeah, so we had a meeting. Mark, are you sure you meant to call me? It's like, I don't even get it. And he probably had seen maybe one of my webinars or something at that point. I don't know. I need to ask him one of these days. What made you call me? Because I don't really know. So we talked about it a little bit. While I do get, like, sick to my stomach before every single speaking gig. Randy Wilburn: I do and just pause, I Want to mention that a lot of people don't realize that some of the most famous speakers have this issue. And I even get nervous before I go out and speak to a group. But that nervousness typically will subside very quickly once I get into my groove. And then the rest of it, I just. It doesn't bother me. But I think that's a normal thing. It's very rare for somebody to just hit the ground running and they don't think twice about it. Everybody gets with those proverbial butterflies or anything, because, I just want people to recognize that is a normal feeling. Even for those like Cherise, maybe myself, who have exercised that muscle of speaking on a regular basis, you still go through something in that process. Cherise Lakeside: It's, funny, though, like, you. Once I get through that first minute, maybe two, but usually it's only one. I forget. But I also believe that number one, if you don't get nervous, you probably shouldn't be doing it. Because I have seen speakers who are great speakers, but it's so practiced, it's so scripted that you lose that. You lose that passion. You lose that thing that connects you to your audience. Once I get going, all bets are off. I'm fine. Doesn't matter how big the room is or how small the room is. I actually get more nervous for smaller groups than I do for bigger ones. But it's that first getting through the butterflies, especially when it's. I get out of my comfort zone, because now I'm speaking at other organizations, conventions, and in front of groups that are not a room full of people where I know a lot of faces.
Randy Wilburn: Yeah.
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