about 40 people in our office. And I came out of the gates of just being intentional. Doug and Celeste had to help me accomplish this. But to sit down with everyone in our office for 30 minutes I had generated eight to 10 questions to ask everyone. Some of those revolved around culture in terms of what are big things for them. We live in Boise, Idaho. It's not a very cool place to live, so I wouldn't move there. But we have people all over the Treasure Valley and we were kind of on the east side. And so we went into this year of just, do we. Do we keep that office and maybe do a west End office, respecting people's drive times and commute, the work-life balance of just not having to drive, you know, 40 minutes to the office? And so in that discussion with the staff, of really bringing them into the conversation, you, are nothing without your people, right? Your people take most of your time. We all know that running a business, but empowering the people and bringing them into the conversation of this specific initiative for Tamarack Grove. And so we did, we troubleshoot, we asked, you know, hey, would you, what would you see? Two offices versus one bigger one. And as you know, if some of you have moved an office, it's a lot to Justin's point of, you got to do these kinds of things by still running and operating a business, keeping clients happy. There's a lot that goes into moving. But we went into this year and through those data points, if you will, Chad, I could share those with you if you'd like. We got a lot of great information back from everyone in our office about what is there why and what would they like to see out of that. And so we just took that and the ultimate decision was, okay, we want to get back to our culture and everything. Everyone was more focused on having one bigger location. And for some of you who know me, I love branding. And like, our existing space was just [inaudible] out. It was cool. But to walk away from that and then just to try and go to a bigger space, at the end of the day, we went to a, three times a square footage space and we doubled our lease payment. But planning for that and executing that, I couldn't have done it without the team around me. So what's important with any initiative is who you surround yourself with. And I think through all that, our team worked hard and we took ownership of the new space in July and we just moved in three weeks ago. Justin Smith: So what I hear, although we're working on three very different problems, one of the foundational elements of anything that you're trying to do is gotta start with senior-level sponsorship. Aaron uses the phrase imperative. Now for Aaron, it is imperative. For him, this is a non-negotiable. But at the start, likely few people had the passion for it that you did. The same thing is probably true at Tamarack, 00:20:00 Justin Smith: right? Few people had the passion for a new office space that the leadership might have. It's not, conventionally a topic that every single person in the organization is going to feel the fire about. And then project leadership. It's, hey, we're
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