201 - TZL - Raouf Ghali

will be. But I think that there's a big need worldwide for growth, and for getting back to a life that is a new normal life, but one that has a future and I believe the planet has a lot of future. We're looking at not just the infrastructure works but we're going off with new technologies, with electrical vehicles with alternative power sources, with environmental issues that create the need for more construction, puts a lot of people at work, so that we can also protect our planet for the future. Randy Wilburn [51:37] So 2021 is, as we wind up here, the 45th year of Hill International. As you shared over the past thirty minutes, that it's been a unique and remarkable journey that you've experienced. If I could pin you into the corner and say, what's the one thing in the next five years between this 45th year in business and the 50th year that you guys will celebrate in 2026? What's the one thing that you'd like to see come to pass in that short timeframe? Because 2026 will be here before you know it, Raouf, you know that right?

Raouf Ghali [52:19] Unfortunately, yes, [inaudible 52:22] goes by so fast.

Randy Wilburn [52:25] Time waits for no man or woman, that's for sure.

Raouf Ghali [52:30] That is true. The one thing I want Hill to be is the employer of choice for the project management and construction management services on a worldwide and global level. Because if we are that, we know that we're just going to continue to have a future for all our people and all our clients, and we are serving them correctly.

Randy Wilburn [53:02] Well, it certainly seems and appears that you have a heart for your people, which I'm sure translates into the overall job satisfaction that a lot of people find there at Hill International, so I certainly want to applaud you for that. I've always been taught, especially in this industry, but I think it bears repeating in any industry in any business. If you take care of your people, your people will take care of your clients, and that that goes without saying. And so Raouf Ghali, it sounds like you're taking care of your people and that you continue to do that and that by the time 2026 rolls around you guys are celebrating your 50th anniversary, you'll have some higher plateaus that you will have reached and that you guys are going to continue to grow. So thank you so

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