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understanding and knowledge of the culture that we talked about. What differentiates us between the international and global players and us, we are the only pure-play project management company that has a global reach. All our competitors come in from the architectural and engineering world and some come from the construction world. And they're great players in the project management field as well but it's a small part of their business. The major part of their business is engineering, design, and construction; we don't do any of that. So there's a lot of conflicts that come from that because as they get on to large programs and let's launch projects, there's a need for a technical issue that comes up, either technical or technology issue. They will immediately look at internal resources to satisfy that need, versus us looking at who is the best in this industry globally to be able to come in and approach the challenge that we have on this project and resolve it. Because we're completely independent and we have no resources to be able to offer. We want to bring in the best of the industry to come in with the team, represent us, and get over the hump that the project may have on behalf of our clients. So that's one of the biggest differentiators that we have with our competitors. And I think that's been recognized by many of our clients and sometimes I hear that Hill usually punches above its weight in a lot of these projects, because we get a lot of megaprojects. And I think partly is because of that, and the other part is because we're a much-focused company and if you're a project manager, and you want to grow in project management, where would you like to be? Would you like to be in a company that ten percent of its business does project management, or one percent of its business does project management and your career will take upward? Randy Wilburn [46:45] So, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. A lot of times firms enjoy the ability to be able to say we have it all in-house, but sometimes that all in-house that they refer to isn't always up to the same level in terms of standards and quality. And what I hear you saying is that, while you operate from a project management standpoint at the highest level possible, you also look for some of these other peer firms that are out there, that can be part of the projects that you're working on, to bring their A-game, and together, you guys can create a really strong front in terms of how you serve the needs of the clients.

Raouf Ghali [47:35] That is exactly correct. You said it probably much better than I did.

Randy Wilburn [47:38] No, that makes perfect sense. But I just want our listeners to understand how you operate. Because I think sometimes, especially our audience, primarily are design firms, but when you think about project management, when you

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