208 - TZL - Justin Smith

good stuff in there. But if you're looking for something that is for you and uses your tools and you are either on a growth trajectory or you're about to be, then my recommendation would be to do it sooner versus later. Because the smaller the group, the easier it is to implement and the easier it is to use it as a foundation. But I think the question to answer is, what are our goals with this? If you're looking to get some training, or you're looking to dip your toe in, then some of the more open enrollment content is going to be great. If you're saying we've been to pm training, it's good stuff, but we want something for us, then I would steer you toward let's talk about what that could look like for you. Randy Wilburn [29:21] I love that because I mean, again, you break it down perfectly. And I think everybody listening to this needs to understand where you are, you being the individual that's listening to this design firm leader. Where are you in this process as Justin just so perfectly laid out, whether you want an off the rack version of the project management training, whether you want to go in and get a custom tailored version, or even if you just want to send some of your people to online training that just gives them some of the foundational basics just to get their head around it? There are a lot of firms that have never given time to project management in the past but have realized that's one of the shortcomings they struggle with and there’s nothing wrong with that. The simplest way to solve a problem is to recognize you have one and then figure out how to solve it. So you make a lot of good points there, Justin. I really appreciate that if people listening to this want to get connected with you what’s the best for them to do that? Justin Smith [30:25] So you can email me anytime at justin@strgroup.com or jsmith@zweiggroup.com. I’m happy to hop on the phone with anybody listening that is maybe thinking about this and isn't really sure where they want to go. It wouldn't be appropriate to leave without a plug for our upcoming June training next month. I think it starts in about two weeks, two and a half weeks, coming up in June. So if you're looking to get some exposure, that's great, what I'd say lower time commitment, since it's weekly. It's 90 minutes per week. We try to structure it around lunchtime. Now, we have some folks that have joined us in the past from Hawaii, and they say eight o'clock is not lunchtime, but we're trying to structure it around lunchtime for some people but that's a great way. Just shoot me an email and let's set up a time to talk. I'm happy to lay it out for anybody that's interested and help them understand the different paths they could take.

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