209 - TZL - John Wheaton

three quarters. So get it in the queue and you got to keep at it for at least a year and see how it goes.

Randy Wilburn [50:44] I agree with that 100 percent and you're right, most people do hit pod fade. We hear a lot of stories. There may be 2 million plus podcast shows on Apple podcasts but I think actively there are less than 450,000 active podcasts. And those would be podcasts that are recorded with some regularity in terms of the cadence of when they produce the show. But yeah, you're absolutely right. Everything that you said is 100 percent spot on and then I would go one step further and say you want to probably have 10 episodes worth of content ready to go at the start because then that will get you over that hump. And actually, it's easier to create that content. It's easier than you think so take that for what it's worth. John Wheaton [51:29] And I do want to encourage people to like, well, John, that's easy for you. I mean, you've been doing this for 30 years and it's nice that you can do a podcast, but I don't have time. I still participate in leadership team meetings. I still help lead an engineering group, and I still review and seal calculations. I still review QC reports. I write a lot of proposals. I engage with a lot of customers. The podcast is a side gig like I just do that and blogging as a side gig because I like it and all the things I've said before. It is what it is. We have to run our businesses. That business comes first. The devotion to that business and the people in that business come first. So it's just a question of what are our priorities. That's all? Randy Wilburn [52:15] Absolutely. And trust me, we make time for the things that we really want to do so that's just the way it is. That horse is dead we beat it enough. But if nothing else, and I'm being funny, folks, but I was glad that when I knew John was coming on, I was like, I definitely want to have him talk about his podcasting journey, because it is important for people to hear that it is possible to do and so I'm excited that you get to hear first-hand from somebody that's actually done it that is a peer of yours in this space. And so I think we'll find that this is a great place for us to put a pen in this conversation. So as we wind up, John, if people want to reach out and connect with you, what's the best way for them to do that?

John Wheaton [53:03] Well, I try to put as many, you follow me and we follow each other on Instagram and Twitter and a variety of places. My philosophy is to have as many potential

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